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Title: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on September 29, 2018, 07:58:52 pm
Main work just now is my entry for 40k open day at the end of November.

Vehicle category - Genestealer Cult

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1952/44992345071_1a03e1192c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPwFr)20180929_145413 (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPwFr) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/44992339581_a5b4fe4836_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPv3M)20180929_145426 (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPv3M) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1917/44992355331_b97d3344d5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPzJk)20180928_154732 (https://flic.kr/p/2bxPzJk) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1939/43180748070_6fa432e45b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28MJC1o)20180807_151723 (https://flic.kr/p/28MJC1o) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Mamikon on October 01, 2018, 10:38:21 am
Wow mate that looks proper cool!

Love that Primus! Will be hopefully soon painting one myself :)

Love the weathering!

I'm particularly interested in the green thingie - how did you do the weathering?
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on October 01, 2018, 12:36:08 pm
Many thanks!

So much still to do, the driver and gunner on the truck, not to mention THE TRUCK!!!!!!

Really pushing myself this time but not expecting anything as ill get the usual face like a slapped arse if i do at the event :P as Skellet or TenBall!

The green thing i assume is the bottom image?  Its the fuel tank from the truck.  It is the hairspray weathering method.  Basically a mix of browns and tank hull red etc, then 2 light coats of hairspray.  Once dry i sprayed Tamiya desert yellow, then a highlight spray of some buff mixed in.  Once dry you agitate the paint delicately with a stiff small brush, aiming for downward strokes to create gravity effect of rust wash etc.

Still freehand highlighting and further griming and shading to do.

From getting 2 finalists previously but recently had a bit of a dearth of awards at GD's, most feedback is to push my shading contrasts farther, more extreme and just carry on being as neat as possible and smooth.

If i get finalist with this entry ill be happy, as i dont know how much more i can push it to not even be getting finalist pins.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Mamikon on October 02, 2018, 11:48:38 am
Thanks for the info mate!

I am so sure you will get a finalist (at least) if you continue that way, really great job!

All tho I am pretty certain that if you have a vehicle and a single model on the same base - it will be moved to the open category. But you have to check that info - I'm not 100% positive on that.

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: 10 ball on October 02, 2018, 01:23:14 pm
Great weathering effects mate
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on October 02, 2018, 06:34:37 pm
Great weathering effects mate

Cheers mate.

struggling with the vehicle crew just now, armour and overalls not coming together well...

More Tea!
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on October 03, 2018, 01:56:45 pm
Currently debating if i put the truck and 2 crew and the base into vehicle, and put the primus into 40k single.

Cant decide, whether having the primus in the scene adds to a story element or if he is good enough on his own to try for the single category and push it a bit more with him.

decisions decisions.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Mamikon on October 03, 2018, 02:29:13 pm
IMHO he is very, very good!

You decide but I'd be priud to have that primus in single :)
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on October 03, 2018, 05:09:30 pm
Very kind of you.

I just get nervous as its a lot of money to go to these events and coming away with not even a finalist makes it harder and harder to keep trying, so deciding what makes my best chance is hard.

Still lots of little details to finish on the primus, and then weathering on the hard surfaces.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 12, 2019, 03:46:43 pm
Hi all,

Well i have been quiet for a while, but its not bad news, all good, IVF ongoing and success so far, but waiting for 12 week scan before calming down a bit, odly i will have this scan before the trip to coventry :).

I have been working away slowly (still lots to do and getting squeaky bum time), however started base work for my single figure 40k entry.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7917/33716006858_6e1bb3f827_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tnnmc5)base (https://flic.kr/p/Tnnmc5) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: ilraenor on April 14, 2019, 03:40:53 pm
Love the yellow! I'd this going to be an ambot?
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 15, 2019, 10:12:21 am
Thanks.

No, its a 32mm base for my 40k single GSC character.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 18, 2019, 10:39:24 pm
Further work on the GSC character and the base.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46723395025_a6c7ec1b4d_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ebMBwi)1 (https://flic.kr/p/2ebMBwi) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46723393345_82e4a32611_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ebMB2k)2 (https://flic.kr/p/2ebMB2k) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: ilraenor on April 19, 2019, 10:09:38 am
Really nice !

Is the texture on the pants stippling ?
Aren't you worried the yellow is too bright ? It's gorgeous but it really pops and the character looks very grimdark
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 19, 2019, 11:34:02 am
TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all the time.

Sorry if that's a bit nihilistic, im just all a bit fed up with it just now, feel its just a waste of my time, and considering i am painting for a living, its not a good place to be.

EDIT: after having a quiet word with myself and reading you question again, yes the textured parts on the cloth (trousers) and a bit of the sword are stippling, just trying out the technique as it seems popular and its a fun thing to do) the leather coat is just thin blending, i.e. very thinned paint built up with lots of layers (Hairdryer needed to speed it up).

I didnt mean to be sharp in my reply, just going through a lot at home with the IVF (no bad news) its just a constant nervousness, and i feel breaking out with my commission work isnt going to happen as FB and Instagram algorithms just mean nothing ever gets seen, or any group you go in scream at you "No commission painters posts", its all a bit depressing, in a fun hobby, there are a lot of killjoys. (not aimed at you obvs, :) )
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: ilraenor on April 19, 2019, 01:25:49 pm
No offence taken, don't worry.

I completely get the "wall" sensation of the contest though. I saw on warhammer community judges are supposed to be available for questionning but I can't find the article so it may be wishful thinking :/

Thanks for the info about the various techniques used.

I hope everything goes well with your commission work and at home :)
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: PaintingLemming on April 22, 2019, 06:23:21 pm
TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all the time.

I think the mentality of 'jacking it all in if this year is a complete bust' is probably the wrong one to approach competition painting with. That's completely my opinion of course and I can't say I've had an overwhelming amount of experience (one Demon, Salute, many many local competitions in several stores which are obviously not nearly on the level of GD- still valuable however), but especially with Golden Demon, you can never go in expecting anything.

You will, without a doubt, be able to get feedback on your work. If somehow the judges disappear, or are busy, then there are tens of incredibly talented painters always happy to talk, and many of the 'Eavy Metal team on stands or roaming the halls who will similarly give you feedback. It takes quite a bit of courage, as I found out in the Nov Demon, but after hesitating to approach many people for feedback there, I made the most of the opportunity at Salute and it did me a world of good.

If your model is discarded because the base detracts from the model, then you've just been given precise feedback on how to improve. Next base you do, make sure it doesn't. (Send pics of it to other painters, bring it into local store, etc.).

Don't stop second guessing your models. It's often frustrating and demoralising but if you don't constantly question the quality of your painting it will come as more of a surprise when the judges do. (That is their job after all). 

I don't doubt all that sounds patronising, I don't mean it to be, I just feel it's integral to enjoying the experience of competition painting and I've had to remind myself of it a few times. Painting is fun. Don't take that fact away from yourself.

On a lighter note, I think the base looks really great. I'm looking forward to seeing the piece at 'Fest.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 22, 2019, 07:07:35 pm
TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all the time.

I think the mentality of 'jacking it all in if this year is a complete bust' is probably the wrong one to approach competition painting with. That's completely my opinion of course and I can't say I've had an overwhelming amount of experience (one Demon, Salute, many many local competitions in several stores which are obviously not nearly on the level of GD- still valuable however), but especially with Golden Demon, you can never go in expecting anything.

You will, without a doubt, be able to get feedback on your work. If somehow the judges disappear, or are busy, then there are tens of incredibly talented painters always happy to talk, and many of the 'Eavy Metal team on stands or roaming the halls who will similarly give you feedback. It takes quite a bit of courage, as I found out in the Nov Demon, but after hesitating to approach many people for feedback there, I made the most of the opportunity at Salute and it did me a world of good.

If your model is discarded because the base detracts from the model, then you've just been given precise feedback on how to improve. Next base you do, make sure it doesn't. (Send pics of it to other painters, bring it into local store, etc.).

Don't stop second guessing your models. It's often frustrating and demoralising but if you don't constantly question the quality of your painting it will come as more of a surprise when the judges do. (That is their job after all). 

I don't doubt all that sounds patronising, I don't mean it to be, I just feel it's integral to enjoying the experience of competition painting and I've had to remind myself of it a few times. Painting is fun. Don't take that fact away from yourself.

On a lighter note, I think the base looks really great. I'm looking forward to seeing the piece at 'Fest.

All good advice, and (i don't mean this in a facetious way at all  btw :) ) i have had the same chat with other painters at events, usually at the bit we all dread, judging complete and its been a bust year.

I am actually decent mates with a few guys who are regular winners and i am very happy to see them at W fest each year as its a good catch up and can look at each others models and talk about issues and get feedback.

The main issue i have is more as i am now a sole trader and my income isn't what it was when i had a job, i feel i have to justify the cost of getting to Fest and spending over 300 just to get and stay at the event gets harder to justify if for a few years on the bounce your not getting into finalist positions (which i have been a couple of times now but last few attempts haven't resulted in anything.

getting feedback is great but can be very hard to do at GD as judges are always in high demand, but i have spoken with max falej (sp?) on twitter a few times and he gave very good feedback.

Also going through the IVF treatments with my wife have been very stressfull this last 12 months, and i also had a big job interview on tuesday which i didnt get in the end though came close) and as i work at home and a lot of my friends now live some 50 miles away, it gets very lonely at times and the day i posted on here about it being all a bust and may give up, i was just quite down and in a funk.

I am working away again on my entries and have a clear couple of weeks to work on them solely (work commitments worked out well there) so we will see.

I think the main thing is you put huge amounts of work into these pieces and when you dont even get into finalist pin position and you see some other entries that have and you can clearly see an issue or something on that model, you start getting a bit fed up. We all do this, its because we are so dedicated and love the competition and entering.

I wouldn't still be doing this some 7 years after my first finalist if i thought id really jack it in ;), i just like a moan now and then, forums are like my pub of mates.
Title: Re: Rick's WIP
Post by: Rick_1138 on April 26, 2019, 12:54:30 pm
Rounding off the details on the single figure entry and the figures on the vehicle entry.  Placed the wheels and dozer blade on the truck for fit check, but not glued yet.

I may tone the base down with a thin sprayed wash to darken it a bit, dont know yet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32760793097_e6b7fc89ff_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RUXCqi)4 (https://flic.kr/p/RUXCqi) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40737649553_3714ebeaed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/254R6Wa)3 (https://flic.kr/p/254R6Wa) by Richard Rose (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153333282@N02/), on Flickr